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	<title>Comments on: The Root of Confusion: Admission vs. Initiation</title>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.winterspells.com/2505/the-root-of-confusion-admission-vs-initiation/comment-page-1/#comment-4819</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH... Trystyn Branwyn wrote this article. Sorry about that.  How can we fix it? Its an interesting article but I can&#039;t blame you for not wanting to be misquoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH&#8230; Trystyn Branwyn wrote this article. Sorry about that.  How can we fix it? Its an interesting article but I can&#8217;t blame you for not wanting to be misquoted.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Tuilly</title>
		<link>http://www.winterspells.com/2505/the-root-of-confusion-admission-vs-initiation/comment-page-1/#comment-4792</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline Tuilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When on earth did I say initation was nothing more than &quot;welcome to the club?&quot; I might have said it, sure, but I don&#039;t remember saying it. People really will do anyhting to show how *they* are a &quot;real authentic witch&quot; while others aren&#039;t. So, I&#039;ve only been &quot;admitted&quot; to the groups I&#039;ve belonged to, have I? Which groups are they anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When on earth did I say initation was nothing more than &#8220;welcome to the club?&#8221; I might have said it, sure, but I don&#8217;t remember saying it. People really will do anyhting to show how *they* are a &#8220;real authentic witch&#8221; while others aren&#8217;t. So, I&#8217;ve only been &#8220;admitted&#8221; to the groups I&#8217;ve belonged to, have I? Which groups are they anyway?<br />
<span class="cluv">Caroline Tuilly´s last [type] ..<a class="88d87b463c 4792" href="http://necropolisnow.blogspot.com/2011/01/australian-lughnasad.html">Australian Lughnasad</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://www.winterspells.com/2505/the-root-of-confusion-admission-vs-initiation/comment-page-1/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually thought it was girl, aubrey.then it is probably just a projection.the girl at the back looks like a guy, the breasts are really in between fertility and muscles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually thought it was girl, aubrey.then it is probably just a projection.the girl at the back looks like a guy, the breasts are really in between fertility and muscles</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i understand. when i had the crowley moonchild book the art of the cover makes me think of that picture.it s sharp, very sharp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand. when i had the crowley moonchild book the art of the cover makes me think of that picture.it s sharp, very sharp.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.winterspells.com/2505/the-root-of-confusion-admission-vs-initiation/comment-page-1/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Baerdsley had any idea? I think he had a lot of sexual issues being Victorian and probably gay.
The confusion suits the article. I think you describe the issue in your comment and it is reflected in the picture, for those who have eyes to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Baerdsley had any idea? I think he had a lot of sexual issues being Victorian and probably gay.<br />
The confusion suits the article. I think you describe the issue in your comment and it is reflected in the picture, for those who have eyes to see.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i looked at this picture of the neophyte and at first it was kind of hurting me, and then it started to repel me after ironically being drawn to it again. there are lots of moons, vulvas and scythe-like shapes everywhere. they seem to reflect each other endlessly and seem to recreate this kind of confusion, when you try to understand things too much, but i also feel that it tries too much too impress things on you. it makes me think of a secret that is guarded by trying to repel you first, like it is trying to scare you, either to see if you can get through your fear, or just as an illusion to scare off those who are not ready to open the door. it is actually not passive enough in the way that it doesn t make your imagination work and doesn t really open anything. it s like a warning that is not necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i looked at this picture of the neophyte and at first it was kind of hurting me, and then it started to repel me after ironically being drawn to it again. there are lots of moons, vulvas and scythe-like shapes everywhere. they seem to reflect each other endlessly and seem to recreate this kind of confusion, when you try to understand things too much, but i also feel that it tries too much too impress things on you. it makes me think of a secret that is guarded by trying to repel you first, like it is trying to scare you, either to see if you can get through your fear, or just as an illusion to scare off those who are not ready to open the door. it is actually not passive enough in the way that it doesn t make your imagination work and doesn t really open anything. it s like a warning that is not necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was a good post for self revelation, i wonder, if she is going to be happy with my bones, or what she is going to build with them, i hope it is not going to be a bike or something like that, a boat would cool with my skull in front, but then i don t decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was a good post for self revelation, i wonder, if she is going to be happy with my bones, or what she is going to build with them, i hope it is not going to be a bike or something like that, a boat would cool with my skull in front, but then i don t decide.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the end to begin, if you admit yourself, accept who you are you end the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the end to begin, if you admit yourself, accept who you are you end the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and also i makes me think of women who give birth. i am not a women , but i can give birth too, like to an idea. sometimes it is painful but just when i block it, or because some other ideas that have no need to be there anymore block it and i don t want them to die, or because i have a blockage that is an exterior restriction, so it is not my idea at all. so it is reasonable to think that women who give birth in pain or with complication are not ready in their spirit to do so for the same reasons i have cited above, either they have their baby because somebody wants them to have it, either they are scared as to how it is going to change their lives, so their body resist it coming out. pain is usualy always associated to death. but then veerybody can see death coming , and make it more painful by resisting, even with mondane things like a girlfriend going away, the end of a job or whatever. now the child that is born out of the mother, is himself going to be born in a society gradually. the house is the womb and he actually goes out of it, to go in another womb which is more like a trap but ven then you can feel your ideas dying away, you re in pain cause what is inside you is not allowed to come out, so yes you kind of take the left hand path, the you repent on the right hand path and then you doon t care anymore.also it makes me think that for a guy sexuality stars with the mother and for girl with the father, and then in the outside world it is man and woman that are equal, which they aren t. real sexuality is going out of the womb constantly going in again, just as you go out of the front door of your house.it is dying and being reborn constantly.but if you can succeed in doing it harmoniously pain doesn t exist . it just flows one into the other.how many people don t like rain and how many people think it is shameful to cry.but when you come out of a church what happens?when you come out of work, what happens?are you like reborn or something or not?or are they or so they think?why do you have to die to give them life?i know this girl she is a dancer, she created choregraphies and did shows, one day she goes to india, and she ended up serving a guru like cleaning his shoes and stuff, and forget everything about dancing. it is an initiation of course, but not the one that she thinks it is.that is the deal walk the path of the blind, the the eye opens and a new world is born. so initiations are actually always mysterious, there is no formula.and then an initiation is personal and then universal.why would a religion sell something, when everything is free at the beginning in nature.probably cause you have to buy it to find out, that is your initiation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and also i makes me think of women who give birth. i am not a women , but i can give birth too, like to an idea. sometimes it is painful but just when i block it, or because some other ideas that have no need to be there anymore block it and i don t want them to die, or because i have a blockage that is an exterior restriction, so it is not my idea at all. so it is reasonable to think that women who give birth in pain or with complication are not ready in their spirit to do so for the same reasons i have cited above, either they have their baby because somebody wants them to have it, either they are scared as to how it is going to change their lives, so their body resist it coming out. pain is usualy always associated to death. but then veerybody can see death coming , and make it more painful by resisting, even with mondane things like a girlfriend going away, the end of a job or whatever. now the child that is born out of the mother, is himself going to be born in a society gradually. the house is the womb and he actually goes out of it, to go in another womb which is more like a trap but ven then you can feel your ideas dying away, you re in pain cause what is inside you is not allowed to come out, so yes you kind of take the left hand path, the you repent on the right hand path and then you doon t care anymore.also it makes me think that for a guy sexuality stars with the mother and for girl with the father, and then in the outside world it is man and woman that are equal, which they aren t. real sexuality is going out of the womb constantly going in again, just as you go out of the front door of your house.it is dying and being reborn constantly.but if you can succeed in doing it harmoniously pain doesn t exist . it just flows one into the other.how many people don t like rain and how many people think it is shameful to cry.but when you come out of a church what happens?when you come out of work, what happens?are you like reborn or something or not?or are they or so they think?why do you have to die to give them life?i know this girl she is a dancer, she created choregraphies and did shows, one day she goes to india, and she ended up serving a guru like cleaning his shoes and stuff, and forget everything about dancing. it is an initiation of course, but not the one that she thinks it is.that is the deal walk the path of the blind, the the eye opens and a new world is born. so initiations are actually always mysterious, there is no formula.and then an initiation is personal and then universal.why would a religion sell something, when everything is free at the beginning in nature.probably cause you have to buy it to find out, that is your initiation.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what we know of gods today are just the tips of the iceberg or a total deformities it makes me think, of all those religious groups whare you call yourselves brothers and sisters. it is a kind of deformation of sexuality. they say that having a child with your brother and sister surely ends up up in having a deformed offspring.there is this forest in germany, not far from Heidelberg called &quot;Odenwald&quot;, i don t know if it bears anything to Odin, but there are still, but where held Walpurgis celebrations, so the people of the area used to go there, the only thing is that they had intercourse between brothers and sisters and the children born where all deformed. the bloodlines have prevailed, but if you are pregnat and you hang around there it is cnsidered a curse for your baby,but then also you wouldn t be attracted there in the first place, and it surely wouldn t happen but if yu weren t innocently attracted there, but still this brother and sister thing in religious groups is really creepy for me.but the point being is that god are completly difformed as a result of idea which have lost their connection to the gods, which makes life an illusion, ideas have to mate too, die and be reborn all the time, they should advocate freedom not bondage.but there ideas have to be brother and sisters and only be seen in the glass of contemplation. a mirror just goes as far as reflecting you but never really shows your true face unless it is used to show what is beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what we know of gods today are just the tips of the iceberg or a total deformities it makes me think, of all those religious groups whare you call yourselves brothers and sisters. it is a kind of deformation of sexuality. they say that having a child with your brother and sister surely ends up up in having a deformed offspring.there is this forest in germany, not far from Heidelberg called &#8220;Odenwald&#8221;, i don t know if it bears anything to Odin, but there are still, but where held Walpurgis celebrations, so the people of the area used to go there, the only thing is that they had intercourse between brothers and sisters and the children born where all deformed. the bloodlines have prevailed, but if you are pregnat and you hang around there it is cnsidered a curse for your baby,but then also you wouldn t be attracted there in the first place, and it surely wouldn t happen but if yu weren t innocently attracted there, but still this brother and sister thing in religious groups is really creepy for me.but the point being is that god are completly difformed as a result of idea which have lost their connection to the gods, which makes life an illusion, ideas have to mate too, die and be reborn all the time, they should advocate freedom not bondage.but there ideas have to be brother and sisters and only be seen in the glass of contemplation. a mirror just goes as far as reflecting you but never really shows your true face unless it is used to show what is beyond.</p>
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